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CuddlyCuteKitten    Topic opened May 11, 2006, 02:18:28 PM
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Perhaps an unknown fact about me is that not only is my title comparing me to a feline, I also share some of the traits of a common housecat.

One of those traits is that I'm not really that attached to the activites happening in the house beyond the things I find shiny at any given moment, and that I tend to view the family of the house with a kind of catlike detachment. As such I tend not to notice even major events that take place within the family (as demonstrated in the past).

But lately the conversations between the family of the house has been a bit tense. Nothing brash enough to startle a dozy cat but certainly enough to make it's ear twich in annoyance.

I'm of course talking about the (at least as I percive it) abnormal ammount of drama that seems to have afflicted the forums since the xF disaster and our subsequent moves.

If I was one of those cats which is unable to write this post would be me meowing trying to get people's attention.
Please don't make me have to hiss.

If I got it all wrong as usual then ignore me and I'll go back to lazily watching the fora trying to find points of interest.
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Badger Reply #1 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 11, 2006, 02:28:39 PM
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Hm.

I don't see anything out of the ordinary, m'self.

Care to elaborate?
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Zahnnie Reply #2 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 11, 2006, 02:35:25 PM
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I *heart* pie (sexily).
We've had a few raging flame debates.
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Vel Reply #3 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 11, 2006, 02:41:47 PM
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We most certainly have. I think part of it is just that people are struggling a little to get used to the environment and restablish themselves. Though, honestly, I don't really know what's happening.

I don't mind the flame wars, actually. Drama makes things more interesting.
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SteelAngelJohn Reply #4 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 11, 2006, 02:44:53 PM
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We know it's full of PRECIOUS BOOTY.
It gets a little boring seeing every single schoolyard brawl I've ever seen/heard/fought in/broken up replayed in a forum. People tend to be pretty okay on average until they decide to have a pissfit.
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Badger Reply #5 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 11, 2006, 02:49:43 PM
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Ah.

Is it that much different from the gun control debates, or the circumcision debates, or some of the political debates from a year or two ago?  Compared to the 2004 election, folks have been downright civil, really.  Remember the constant drama flood that was Mercy?

Compared to the xF of the last four or five months right before the hack, yeah it's been pretty hot here.  But historically, this is nothing I think we haven't had before, and often, if you ask me.  xF was starting to die down a bit, because people were used to one another.  We're not used to one another as much in this particular setting, and it's hard to respond with, "We've already discussed that," and a link if the links aren't there.  So we're hashing out new territory philosophically, which I think is good because it's not really flamewar-y.  There's a lot of conflict, but I guess I'm just pretty much seeing folks being (as a group) about as reasonable as they've always been.

This community always seems to run in fits of high emotion and low emotion, and the perception of drama flows with that, I'd imagine.

In fact, I'm pretty sure that if we had the xF archives handy, I could point you to at least three threads that start off with, "Why is everything so high-drama these days?"
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Zahnnie Reply #6 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 11, 2006, 02:57:16 PM
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I *heart* pie (sexily).
Hahaha. Smile

I kind of like the random flaming.  It burns off some of my aggression.

*beats up some kids for their lunch money*
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007bistromath Reply #7 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 11, 2006, 03:01:08 PM
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Kyle J Cardoza Reply #8 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 11, 2006, 03:05:25 PM
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Flaming per se is against the rules, as it's a personal attack. But arguments, even ones that get heated and people get angry over, are most assuredly allowed. I don't like to censor, so I try to avoid it. However, you should know that the appropriate response to a personal attack it to report the offending post. One of the mod posse will take care of it, or send it to me.
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Starlock Reply #9 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 11, 2006, 05:30:43 PM
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*shoots Kyle*

Wait.  Was that a personal attack?
I don't think that bullet had your name on it. *g*

(Edit: Bullet has two L's)
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sinic Reply #10 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 11, 2006, 05:57:03 PM
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There was a thing I heard on NPR a while back about group formation.  It tends to go through four phases: forming, storming, norming and conforming (performing).  I think the group now is in the "storming" stage where there are fights and debates and basically everyone tries to find their boundaries and then once they've been established people can settle back into their normal routine.

The community's gone through it before.  Basically whenever a new, strong-minded member joins the group they go through it to as they try to find their place within the community.  I can specifically recall at least one instance of it before, though I'm sure there have been others.

I'm sure it'll settle itself out given some time.  For anyone who's interested I found a short article on the stages here..  A longer wiki article can be found here.

I don't think there's really anything to get too hissy over, CCK.
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Anumati Reply #11 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 11, 2006, 06:59:43 PM
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This is where I say something clever.
I was gonna say something but Sinic has beat me to it. I'll just add that it seems to be the life cycle of forums. Quiet as people sort themselves out, small conflicts as people realize they're in conflict with others, big exciting clashes, drama and other shockwaves, quiet as people sort themselves out....
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Pixie Reply #12 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 12, 2006, 04:00:28 AM
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Besides, with the new forum come new moderators. We're still learning, and sometimes it's hard to know when to step in. When one person thinks we should have stopped it 3 pages ago, ten others think we should let it run its course.

It's a baby forum. Let it grow up a bit. ^_^
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S*S Reply #13 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 13, 2006, 05:58:00 AM
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Quote from: Beldaran on May 12, 2006, 04:00:28 AM
Besides, with the new forum come new moderators.

Yeah, what a bunch of clueless assholes, eh?
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Pixie Reply #14 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 13, 2006, 07:24:55 AM
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Yeah, I know! Terrible ^_^
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NoxEquites Reply #15 in Re: Oh the drama... — Posted May 15, 2006, 10:10:38 AM
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If there was no drama ever then this would be a dull place. The heated debates aren't even close to the worst possible drama we have seen and when someone with strong conviction and intelligence goes on a rant the results are at least interesting to read.
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