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Poll: What're your feelings about the male pill?
I dunno/Whatever/I don't like sex anyway. - 22 (44.9%)
I am male and I'd not use it. - 2 (4.1%)
I am female and I'd like men to use it. - 19 (38.8%)
I am female and I'd not like men to use it. - 2 (4.1%)
I dunno/Whatever/I don't like sex anyway. - 4 (8.2%)
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phobos Reply #20 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted April 30, 2006, 03:16:25 PM

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I'd be... distrustful of it.

The rebels only have to blow up one Death Star, but the Empire needs to shoot down every last X-Wing, you know?
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lil_poiple_ash Reply #21 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted April 30, 2006, 03:21:23 PM

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The thing is, even though women's reproductive system is cyclical, and there is a difference between disrupting a system and turning it off, there are a lot of side effects for some women with the female pill, and a lot of the men I hear talking (not here, but in the rest of the world) seem to be perfectly fine with women having increased cancer risks and other side effects but horrified at the thought that a male pill might not be entirely free of side effects, and would happily continue subjecting their partners to the effects of the female pill because 'the male pill is not safe enough yet' for them. That kind of bugs me. Now, if they don't expect their female partners to be on the pill either, then that's cool, but the double standard tees me off.


And lets not forget the depo shot which can cause infertility, osteoperosis (especially if used for more than 24 months (at cumulatively)), and make your nipples leak blood.

Edit: Oh... I forgot: reduced sex drive and it can also trigger extreme mood swings or depressions.
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Gudy Reply #22 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted April 30, 2006, 03:48:36 PM
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I'd use it. But I would like to know how reliable it is (see phobos' post :-) and what side effects there are. (Early models had significant side effects like loss of libido and severe mood changes, AFAIK.) I'd also want to be pretty damn sure that my testicles are back to their normal sperm-producing selves after a given amount of time after I stop taking them.
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ninewhilenine Reply #23 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted April 30, 2006, 04:29:01 PM

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"Don't worry baby, I'm on the male pill," is the new, "Don't worry baby, I'll pull out."

Aside from that, I think it's a great idea, but only in long term relationships were you can monitor his pill taking.  ;D
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S*S Reply #24 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted April 30, 2006, 06:26:44 PM
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"Don't worry baby, I'm on the male pill," is the new, "Don't worry baby, I'll pull out."

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Sean Reply #25 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted April 30, 2006, 07:33:37 PM

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Boom

I intend to posit that there is only one reliable birth control method.

Castration.
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TIP Reply #26 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 01, 2006, 01:28:01 AM

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How about EATING BABIES? That sure controls the birth!
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S_C Reply #27 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 01, 2006, 04:06:18 AM

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Only if you eat them in utero.
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Sean Reply #28 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 01, 2006, 04:07:57 AM

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Boom

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Feline Reply #29 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 01, 2006, 06:39:23 PM

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I would definitely use, provided:
1) High reliability
2) Acceptable side effects
I've always found it somewhat amusing that a contraceptive would have among its side effect a decreased libido, which has been one of the problems with previous attempts at a pill for men(and yes, also a problem with female hormonal contraceptives). But if this works well I could rest easy in the knowledge that remembering the pill was my responsibilityl. Mind you, my hypothetical partner might not feel the same way  Tongue
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Starlock Reply #30 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 01, 2006, 06:42:00 PM

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If it we're an issue, I'd likely take it, but it's not.

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Tamsin Reply #31 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 01, 2006, 07:08:27 PM
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I'd be... distrustful of it.

The rebels only have to blow up one Death Star, but the Empire needs to shoot down every last X-Wing, you know?

Mm.. no, sorry, I don't get it. My body (and I am female, in case you live under a rock Cheesy) creates hormonal signals. Because of them, an egg ripens. The pill I take blocks/confuses those signals. No fertility.

Mens' bodies create hormonal signals. This pill would block/confuse those signals, and no precursor cells would divide into sperm.

There's no real difference, hormonally, between blocking/confusing a signal that only gets sent once a month or so, and blocking/confusing one that is sent much more often. It's hours or days for each precursor cell, I forget which. if the hormones that cause gametes to form are like wireless signals from one device to another, the pill functions like a huge powerful emitter which drowns out the first device's signal in static and noise, or overwhelms it by broadcasting a conflicting signal. Now, if the pill's static is always there, chemically, it doesn't matter much if the device sends its signal every month or every day.
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agc Reply #32 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 03, 2006, 04:35:08 AM

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There's no real difference, hormonally, between blocking/confusing a signal that only gets sent once a month or so, and blocking/confusing one that is sent much more often. It's hours or days for each precursor cell, I forget which. if the hormones that cause gametes to form are like wireless signals from one device to another, the pill functions like a huge powerful emitter which drowns out the first device's signal in static and noise, or overwhelms it by broadcasting a conflicting signal. Now, if the pill's static is always there, chemically, it doesn't matter much if the device sends its signal every month or every day.

Tamsin, there's such a difference. I mean, any woman can produce eggs, but it takes a real man to produce sperm.
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S*S Reply #33 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 03, 2006, 02:22:26 PM
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Damn right. My sperms are so powerful that when I ejaculate I can sink aircraft carriers.

Anyway, Phobo's concern may not be based on rock solid science even despite his reference to X wing starfighters, but it makes sense as far as it goes... I can see the concern. Of course, the actual release of this pill will no doubt be accompanied by a truckload of science to dissuade us fence-sitters.

Anyway, Id definitely do it, provided I don't have to have an injection directly into my penis every three months, which Im sure was the case for the other one, if not the same pill...
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Tamsin Reply #34 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 04, 2006, 11:38:37 AM
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This pill has no injection, S*S, you and your penis are safe from it.

I still don't get phobos' position, but I am starting to think that it's having to do with me being not-male.  :-\
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escmylife Reply #35 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 06, 2006, 04:24:11 PM
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I was talking with one of my male friends and he had a few concerns about the male pill.
1. That because the pill reduced sperm production that orgasms would be weaker.
2. That after a week, a guy would think he was safe.

Besides, one of the main reasons I'm on the pill, aside from the birth protection, is that it regulates my period and lessens cramping pains. I also wouldn't really trust a guy to remember to take it, no offense to the guys here. And then a guy could -say- he's on it, the girl would believe him and wham! another stupid baby is born...
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sinic Reply #36 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 06, 2006, 08:11:56 PM
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I think that's true for the female pill as well.  A woman could say she's on the pill and not be... or be taking it incorrectly.  I don't get why it would be more likely for a man to say he's on it when he's not than a woman to.
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escmylife Reply #37 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 06, 2006, 10:12:23 PM
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Its just my opinion that guys would forget to take it as well as a girl. I know I forget on occassion but I also always use a back up method. And as for saying and not doing, I think ninewhilenine said it best...
I'm also not a trusting person, especially of guys, and rather paranoid when it comes to sexual protection. I don't want to end up like my mom, and she used protection just not a back up.
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Pixie Reply #38 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 06, 2006, 10:36:28 PM

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Well then how about the male pill as a back-up? That way, if either one of you forgets, you're still most likely going to be baby-free.
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escmylife Reply #39 in Re: the Male Pill — Posted May 06, 2006, 10:48:01 PM
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I just personally don't trust a guy to take a pill. I know all guys aren't like that but still, I wouldn't trust a guy to remember. Its just how I am so I would never rely soley on the male pill or even as the male pill being the only back up. Maybe I'm being a jerk, maybe I'm over-paranoid but its just how I feel.
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