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Poll: What would you use a subscribed Network Attached Storage service for?  (Voting closed: June 23, 2008, 10:41:08 AM)
Hard Drive backup (250GB) - 8 (22.9%)
Sharing large files - 9 (25.7%)
Community backup - 2 (5.7%)
Collaborative project work - 7 (20%)
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The pron, it is my preciousssssss.... - 2 (5.7%)
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Offsite hard drive (convert laptop/home PC to terminal computer with no data on drive) - 2 (5.7%)
Dude. Data Haven. Cryptonomicon. Duh. - 0 (0%)
I shall let the llamas dance and play. - 2 (5.7%)
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thedrunkenmonkey    Topic opened June 13, 2008, 10:41:08 AM

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All right, geeklings...

I happen to have an opportunity to influence a product launch direction a bit. So here's a chance for you to vent a bit.

Network Attached Storage, right? My company may be launching a product soon that skips the physical hard drive space and lets you get as much storage as you want, accessible via the Internet.

No, it ain't gonna be free. Sorry. More than 5GB has to be paid with dollars, not advertising, and this is pretty much all over 5GB. (Ergo, complaining that it's not free is pretty much useless information.)

This is more of a survey of usage and idea brainstorming for the use of such a thing; not neccessarily "OMG U ARE FLAWED HUR HUR PRODUCT SUX".

I should add that (re: phobos' comment) that pirate copyright infringement is a possibility but not likely, since most people who yoink copyrighted material are unlikely to A) pay for storage B) place their pirated stuff on an external server that isn't directly controlled by them in the physical meatspace (IE, you can't just pull the drive out of your unit).

But since it ain't gonna be free, what would you want to do with a service that essentially turns a chunk of a server into another backup hard drive?
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phobos Reply #1 in Online Hard Drives - Network Attached Storage Program — Posted June 13, 2008, 10:51:06 AM

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Communal media storage dump. MP3s, warez, 0day... no, OK, I'm not that l337, I admit it... anime, OK? Lots and lots of it. Share the access password with others in a group.

Actually, come to think of it... aren't you reinventing the FTP server? Even Windows can mount an FTP server as a disk drive.
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machiavelli33 Reply #2 in Online Hard Drives - Network Attached Storage Program — Posted June 13, 2008, 01:42:52 PM
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Not your typical chinaman.

I'm gonna second Phobos' thought here, actually.
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sinic Reply #3 in Online Hard Drives - Network Attached Storage Program — Posted June 13, 2008, 08:34:16 PM
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Don't they already have products like this in rapidshare, megaupload and other online storage sites?  All those are co-opted by the pirate groups, but I don't think many of them are pay.  I think with privacy concerns I'd be pretty unlikely to risk storing my data with someone else.  Maybe it's just my own paranoia, but after having xF wiped which essentially wiped all the "data" I (and everyone else) had there by someone outside the system I'm really hesitant to store anything important not physically close to me.

You can throw on all the security measures you want, but If You Build It, They Will Hack It.  Just the nature of the beast.
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da chicken Reply #4 in Online Hard Drives - Network Attached Storage Program — Posted June 13, 2008, 10:44:43 PM

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It's a joke. Laugh.

The limitation of online storage is the connection speed.  I have a NAS at home that I use for backup and file transfers, but it's only good because I get LAN speeds.  A home user is pretty limited, doesn't need much in the way of online collaboration, and can get a "good enough" file sharing through a web space or someplace like sinic mentioned.

Offsite backup is the only reason I'd want it.
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I'm there with da chicken.  For my own personal use, I don't think I'd have any.

In the context of my company, we definitely have situations for which we could use a space to share files, inbound and outbound, with clients.  Preferably somewhere that we could easily create and delete short-term accounts for people to have limited time access to things.  Given the lack of internal IT experience, having someone external who could handle the security aspect of the thing would be a boon.  Likewise we could use a good off-site backup for all of our IP, perhaps somewhere we don't share a fault line with.  But the fact that the remote access will probably only get a 1-2 Mbps given all of the bottlenecks in the way really rules out online storage for day-to-day use.
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Aeryven Reply #6 in Online Hard Drives - Network Attached Storage Program — Posted June 29, 2008, 02:46:59 PM
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I'm probably too late, but I just found the thread.. I remember Dell coming out with this type of service for their customers. I had to train our staff on how to support it. They called it DataSafe, and had a very simple utility which allowed you to do three things:

1. Browse your hard drive for files to backup
2. Full data restore with the push of a single button (this frightened me for some reason)
3. Subscribe for more storage space on the server and/or more time

Dell allowed you to have 3 Gigs of space for free for the first year after the purchase of a new system, and the software generally came pre-installed. If you liked the service, you'd have to subscribe for preset chunks of space for 1 or 2 years at a time.

Officially, the app was touted as a secure offsite backup service for homeusers and had all sorts of warnings and disclaimers attached to it about connection speeds, which files could be backed up, etc..

Unofficially, the developers over at Dell told us it was a piece of crap management acquired from some tiny little company and told them to stamp on a Dell branding while working out the required infrastructure and a few of the major bugs, and wouldn't recommend it to a red-headed step-child. (I miss those guys. Smile )

My own opinion? Dell's DataSafe aside, online data backup is a good idea. Like Chicken said, the biggest limit is connection speed. So it really depends on your target market and their likelihood of having a fast enough connection to take advantage of your services. Who's gonna be using this service? Businesses or consumers?

If it's consumers, then your company had better be ready for the barrage of educational calls, customer complaints about functionality, and privacy concerns. We never heard the end of it at Dell On Call, and we weren't even the primary support department for DataSafe.

Other than that, I think I'd use it primarily for storing a weekly system image backup. Two images at a time for consecutive weeks, actually. For each of my hard drives. I'm not too comfortable with the lack of control over the storage media, so it would likely strictly be used as a secondary backup to my primary backup system which would be onsite, like a NAS or Drobo.

My dad has also been looking for something like this for a while, but so far hasn't really found anything he's comfortable using or thinks is worth paying for.
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