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Offline Colesla

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Help me pick out a motorcycle
« on: July 20, 2011, 03:43:42 PM »
I plan on buying a motorcycle some time in the near but not too near future. By which I mean, not in the next month or two but within the year. Problem is, I don't feel like I know enough about motorcycles to make a good decision. I want a cruiser for riding around around town and occasional road trips. Something like a Shadow or a Rebel and I'd like to keep it cheap.

Any tips?

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Re: Help me pick out a motorcycle
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 04:01:55 PM »
My tip? Do not ever, ever, fucking EVER go out without full gear on. EVER. I see guys riding around my city in flip flops, shorts and teeshirts.

Please. I beg you.

My guy flipped over his handlebars a month ago and was lucky enough to only break both of his arms, it could've been so much worse.

I don't mean to be super reactionary, but that plus the no-helmet death my mom witnessed upclose and first hand has made me super afraid of motorcycles. They look SO AWESOME and are SO DANGEROUS even when you're the best rider on earth - it only takes one dickhead not paying attention while driving.

Sorry. Sorry! I'm pooping on your party - just take it as a statement that I care for you!

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Re: Help me pick out a motorcycle
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 04:02:10 PM »
Also, Triumphs look totally fucking sweet, for what it's worth.

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Re: Help me pick out a motorcycle
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2011, 05:52:27 PM »
My tip? Do not ever, ever, fucking EVER go out without full gear on. EVER. I see guys riding around my city in flip flops, shorts and teeshirts.

Please. I beg you.

My guy flipped over his handlebars a month ago and was lucky enough to only break both of his arms, it could've been so much worse.

I don't mean to be super reactionary, but that plus the no-helmet death my mom witnessed upclose and first hand has made me super afraid of motorcycles. They look SO AWESOME and are SO DANGEROUS even when you're the best rider on earth - it only takes one dickhead not paying attention while driving.

Sorry. Sorry! I'm pooping on your party - just take it as a statement that I care for you!

Just to concur with Tweak, I just worked a wreck where the guy's bike ended up in one county, his body in another, and his head floated down-river and ended up in a third county.  So, yeah, remember you're pretty much invisible to the average asshole driver; gear and defensive riding at all times.

On a lighter note... Shadows are good, cheap bikes and will run forever.  Plus, a little after-market work and you can totally make one *look* like a Harley - if you want to be a poseur like that.  :p

I've given up on the bike dream - but I am going to look at the Camero on Sunday...

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Re: Help me pick out a motorcycle
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 07:08:09 PM »
Believe me, I plan on being as safe as possible. I've heard a million and one horror stories about motorcycle wrecks and don't plan on being the million and second.
Also, I have no desire to own a Harley or anything that looks like one. (Although I saw a pretty sweet one last month that would almost make me change my mind.) Triumphs are cool but at the moment I'm leaning towards Honda.

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Re: Help me pick out a motorcycle
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2011, 07:28:24 PM »
Just to concur with Tweak, I just worked a wreck where the guy's bike ended up in one county, his body in another, and his head floated down-river and ended up in a third county.  So, yeah, remember you're pretty much invisible to the average asshole driver; gear and defensive riding at all times.

omg. Wow. I mean, I'm sure that in real life, you're not exaggerating, but is it okay if, inside of my own private reality, things like that don't actually happen? That just isn't a mental picture I want to be carrying around with me forever. o_o And otherwise, I will be. o_o

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Re: Help me pick out a motorcycle
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 10:35:34 AM »
I have ridden for a couple of years now, and still have my first bike.  

Depending on where you're located ye might be able to take a riding course to get your license - this would circumvent the test at the DMV.  It is available in my state (OR), though I don't know if it is so elsewhere.  It's normally a three day practicum with a certain amount of in-class instruction, with the rest of the teaching done on motorcycles (all 250's) - not on the streets of course, normally in a huge parking lot.  They teach students everything one might be tested on at the DMV: slow turns, stopping, swerving, running the motorcycle barrels, etc - along with everything practical from turning on the motorcycle to the proper way to change lanes (SMOG - signal, check the mirror, over the shoulder and GO).  

If that type of course is not available, a safety course is something I would recommend, as it can lower your insurance rate and also teach you useful skills if it is a practicum-style class.

Craigslist is honestly a good place to find bikes - learn what kind of bike you want (or a few different types), what the specs indicate when reading ads and what the average price for a used ______ should be.  You can get the idea of many of these by looking through the ads for a week or so - all the Honda Rebels, for example.  It's an easy way to learn what you might be looking for and what would best fit you in terms of price and all that jazz.  

Also, a used bike for your first bike is... a very good idea, if I may say.  There is a good chance you will do something in the first year of riding - lay it down, scratch it up just a tiny bit, etc - and buying a shiny new bike only to lay it down three months later is... disheartening.  
« Last Edit: September 09, 2011, 10:38:38 AM by Silentium »

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Re: Help me pick out a motorcycle
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 10:45:18 AM »
P.S. Handling is not something ye eyeball - it is like seat height: ye just have to try it out. Your height, ability to balance, comfort in handling different sensitivities of throttle (Rebel vs. Ninja, for instance) and preference for seating position - all these things will affect how a bike "handles" in your opinion. However, there are general trends just like with any car. A Kawasaki 250 Ninja will have a more sensitive throttle - so the power comes more quickly when you ask for it via your right hand. It will corner on a dime and make it so that once ye are quite competent you can pass 650 riders on turns simply due to how amazingly it handles at high RPM's and the lightness of its frame.

However, the Rebel is pretty awesome for city and street riding - the seating position makes it more comfortable for longer rides, and it is a bit lower to the ground right off the bat (so it is more comfortable for shorter riders at times); sports bikes are designed to be a bit higher to give that clearance for assertive turns. Also the fact that it's a tiny bit less sensitive made it feel more... cruising to me. A tad smoother and more relaxed in how the rider performs many actions, simply because they were done more slowly and in less of a "WHEEEEEEE" position.

Also: Online fora are angelic creations given to us like a fine ambrosia from the gods. Honestly. Hey look, Utah!  They can be a great source of information, tips and chances to meet people in a non-creepy setting who also ride. I'm a member at PNWRiders.com, which is one in my area. I just went to a rally last week.   (|:|)

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Re: Help me pick out a motorcycle
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2011, 08:45:51 PM »
To pile on the suggestions:
1: Agreed on the 'don't ride without proper protective gear' - I'm still stunned by the mo-rons when I travel back to Malk's neck of the woods who will ride around without helmets, let alone a good armored jacket, pants, and boots. Just because it's legal.... But, I guess we do need more organ donors.
2: http://nm.msf-usa.org/msf/ridercourses.aspx?pagename=RiderCourse+Info - Motorcycle Safety Foundation RiderCourse - it'll likely let you bypass the driving part of the license test, and can get you a discount on insurance.
3: Keep your head on a swivel, and ride like they're out to get you... Because especially when they aren't paying attention, they're out to get you.

Agreed on the Rebel being a good, basic bike, and a good starter - I really like the Triumph Thunderbird, and if you maintain them yourself, older BMWs can be excellent - it depends on what your budget is, and what you're looking for. You might start with something really basic, inexpensive, and reliable that you wouldn't feel terrible about if you dropped it at a stoplight...

If you're looking for an online forum, I like the ones at http://advrider.com/forums/.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2011, 08:53:20 PM by KnightOfNi »
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