Author Topic: Doctor Who (Read 57341 times)

phobos · « **on:** April 22, 2006, 01:27:58 PM »

Well, once more I have nothing better to be doing on a Saturday night. TARDIS time!

I wasn't too impressed with last week's show, but this week I think the new Doctor really got going. With werewolves. And kung fu monks. I thought kung fu monks were traditionally Chinese, not Scottish, but there you go.

I was watching on my own tonight, but I'll see the repeat tomorrow with Little Sister. There were some scenes I imagine will upset the kiddies. We didn't _see_ anyone get horribly mauled and messily devoured, but going by the sound some really horrible stuff happened _just_ off camera.

Oh, one other thing before we go into spoiler land: the new Doctor has impeccable musical taste.

Fcbvyref, evtug...

Ylpnaguebcl vf, va snpg, na nyvra ragvgl. Gur nyvra pryyf ohvyq hc, nf gurl trg cnffrq ba sebz bar ubfg gb gur arkg, hagvy gurl pna birejuryz gur obql naq orpbzr n jbys. Abg fher jul n jbys, be jul zbbayvtug va cnegvphyne pngnylfrf guvf, ohg gur Qbpgbe unq n engure qrprag zrqvpny grez sbe vg, fb gung'f BX. Url, jr chg hc jvgu vg ba Fgne Gerx nyy gubfr lrnef.

Gurer'f n phyg bs xhat sh zbaxf qribgrq gb cebgrpgvat gur jbys yvarntr naq vagrag ba vasrpgvat gur Dhrra - gurerol perngvat fbzr xvaq bs fgrnzchax nyvra jbys rzcver. Juvpu jbhyq, va snpg, or rkgerzryl pbby, ohg cebonoyl abg n tbbq guvat birenyy.

Gurl fnobgntr gur envyjnlf gb qvireg gur Dhrra'f cnegl vagb gurve greevgbel, gura nggnpx ure nf fur fgnlf va, VVEP 'Gbepujbbq Znabe'. Uzz. Ubjrire, ba ure jnl gurer fur'f zrg gjb ar're-qb-jryyf jnaqrevat nebhaq ba gur zbbe jbaqrevat jul gurl nera'g ng n chax tvt va 1979. Bhg ol n praghel, glcvpny oybbql GNEQVF. Abg fher jul nyy gubfr thneqf qvqa'g erznex hcba gur cerfrapr bs n cbyvpr obk va gur zvqqyr bs abjurer.

Gur ylpnaguebcr vf xrcg va gur onfrzrag, nybat jvgu nyy gur erthyne fgnss bs gur znabe, naq gur ybpny ynveq'f jvsr (nf n ubfgntr, gb znxr fher ur pbbcrengrf). Svar ol zr, tbbq guvaxvat. Bapr gur fhogreshtr vf erirnyrq, gurl teno Ebfr naq ybpx ure hc qbja gurer nf jryy; bapr gurer, gur ylpnaguebcr erpbtavfrf fbzrguvat bs gur jbys va ure nf jryy. 'Lbh fubar yvxr gur fha... ohg nyy V arrq vf gur zbba!' be fbzrguvat yvxr gung. Gur ersrerapr vf boivbhf - vf ONQ JBYS abg dhvgr qbar jvgu?

Gur pbapyhfvba: qrhf rk znpuvan ntnva? V qba'g guvax fb. Jryy, vg jnf fyvtugyl 'zbqvsl gur qrsyrpgbe qvfu', ohg abg nf onq nf ynfg jrrx'f ohfvarff nobhg zvkvat hc nyy gur zrqvpvarf va gur ohvyqvat. Gur fbyhgvba unq rabhtu ohvyq-hc guebhtubhg gur rcvfbqr, jvgu n onpx-fgbel nobhg gur cerivbhf ynveq naq Cevapr Nyoreg pbafcvevat gb ohvyq na nagv-jrerjbys qrivpr juvpu gur Qbpgbe jnf noyr gb oevat vagb bcrengvba.

Ner gur Eblny Snzvyl nyy jrerjbyirf gbqnl? Jryy, Ebfr unf n cbvag nobhg Cevaprff Naar. Qnivq Vpxr fnlf gur Eblnyf ner tvnag fcnpr yvmneqf va uhznabvq qvfthvfr, ohg jr nyy xabj _gubfr_ nyvraf bayl cvpx sng uhznaf jub sneg n ybg :-)

Naq zber Gbepujbbq pbaarpgvbaf: gur Dhrra vf irel haunccl nobhg nyy gurfr nyvra vagreybcref ehaavat nebhaq qbvat jrveq guvatf bhgfvqr ure pbageby. Cvff bss gur ybg bs lbh, guvf vf _ZL_ jbeyq gunax lbh irel zhpu! Fb fur rfgnoyvfurq gur Gbepujbbq Vafgvghgr, onpx va 1879. Gur Qbpgbe'f abg tbvat gb trg bhg bs guvf bar jvgu n fvzcyr favqr pbzzrag gb na haqreyvat. Ohg... vs Gbepujbbq tbrf onpx fb sne, ubj pbzr jr arire urneq bs vg onpx jura gur Qbpgbe jnf unatvat nebhaq va gur yngr 1960f naq jbexvat jvgu HAVG? Fheryl gurer'f fbzr bireync va gurve erfcbafvovyvgvrf? Vs Gbepujbbq jnf rfgnoyvfurq ol gur Dhrra nf n fgrnzchax K-Svyrf bhgsvg, naq tvira n oevrsvat nobhg jvgu gur anzr 'GUR QBPGBE' ng gur gbc bs gur yvfg bs fhfcrpgf, jbhyqa'g gurl unir urneq sebz HAVG nobhg guvf bqqonyy pbafhygnag gurl unq urycvat bhg nyy gur gvzr, naq gubhtug 'Uzz...'?

Well, whatever. Trailer shows we've got Anthony Stewart Giles the Gold Blend Guy Head next week as something resembling the Demon Headmaster, and we're unearthing a couple of relics from the Tom Baker era. Looks like fun!

Tamsin · « **Reply #1 on:** April 22, 2006, 01:49:02 PM »

We're only just seeing the first season here in Boston. Last nigt was satellite 5 featuring a very cold, blue-white and obsequious Shaun of the Dead. Booyah! I loves this new Doctor. Eccleston is fast approaching Depp and Mortensen in my personal hot-guy-actors listing.

phobos · « **Reply #2 on:** April 22, 2006, 02:02:09 PM »

Satellite 5. The Mighty Jagrafess of the Holy Hadrojassic Maxarodenfor. Fabulous name. Good episode, but overshadowed by the awesome episode before it, the great episode after it, and the two-parter after that which is probably best not watched after dark. I did like Simon Pegg, though... I would have loved to see his face when they came to him and said 'hey, how would you like to be a Doctor Who villain?' :-)

Oh, and the Doctor got shot of Adam. Annoying little git that he is. Wouldn't be surprised to see him make a comeback as a villain at some point, though; he's still a genius, but now he's a genius who knows that time travel is possible, who has seen far-future technology in action even if the Doctor deleted his download of the details, who has a background in reverse-engineering this stuff, and who has reason to be bloody pissed off.

And the Doctor left him in England, circa, what, 2015 or so? I bet he'll join UNIT or Torchwood, and start doing something all conspiracy-theory.

Imp · « **Reply #3 on:** April 22, 2006, 02:06:53 PM »

Ooooh! Adam the bad guy? That would be fun...

The following is in reference to the werewolf episode.

V guvax V pna yrg gur HAVG/Gbepujbbq bireync fyvqr. V'z eryngviryl fher ur jnfa'g ersreerq gb nf 'Gur Qbpgbe' va sebag bs Ivpxl fb fur'q unir tvira gurz gur anzr gung fubjrq ba gur cflpuvp cncre. V nyfb guvax vg hayvxryl gung fbzrbar bs gung ren jbhyq rkcrpg gung jneavat gb or arrqrq sbe zber guna n yvsrgvzr.

V whfg ubcr gung Gur Qbpgbe vtaberf uvf rkvyr, gur Ivpgbevna rcvfbqrf ner fbzr bs gur orfg jr'ir frra va obgu arj frevrf (VZB).

V pna'g jnvg gb frr X-9 ntnva! Gbz Onxre jnf gur Qbpgbe gung V terj hc jvgu fb V unir n fbsg fcbg sbe uvf tnqtrgf. Fhecevfvatyl gubhtu zl xvqf ner nf rkpvgrq nobhg X-9'f nccrnenapr nf V nz.

phobos · « **Reply #4 on:** April 22, 2006, 02:28:14 PM »

If he makes a comeback, I'm betting third season, in some kind of Torchwood / Doctor Who crossover plot.

Ur ersreerq gb uvzfrys nf gur Qbpgbe, naq jnf xavtugrq haqre gung anzr. Fve Qbpgbe bs Gneqvf.

Creuncf gur Gbepujbbq Vafgvghgr jbhyq abg guvax gur Qbpgbe jbhyq fgvyy or nebhaq jura gur Guveq Qbpgbe ghearq hc fbzr 90 lrnef yngre - ohg fheryl gurl'q unir fbzr vafgvghgvbany zrzbel. N ovt pbcl bs gurve sbhaqvat punegre ba gur jnyy ng UD, fbzrguvat yvxr gung.

Fbzrguvat nybat gur yvarf bs 'Ure Oevgnaavp Znwrfgl Dhrra Ivpgbevn ol gur Tenpr bs Tbq Dhrra naq Rzcerff bs Vaqvn qbgu urerol raqbj gur Gbepujbbq Vafgvghgr, naq punetrgu naq pbzznaqrgu vg gb thneq Bhe Ernyz ntnvafg guerngf Fgenatr naq Haangheny sebz dhnegref obgu Qbzrfgvp naq Sbervta, va cnegvphyne Zbafgebfvgvrf bs Angher naq gung fhfcvpvbhf vaqvivqhny pnyyvat uvzfrys Gur Qbpgbe jub unir yngryl gebhoyrq Bhe Crefba va Bhe Ernyz bs Fpbgynaq.'

Gbepujbbq bcrengvirf jbhyq cebonoyl xabj gung n punenpgre ol gur anzr bs Gur Qbpgbe jnf vaibyirq va gur riragf gung yrq gb gurve sbhaqvat, naq gurl'q or erzvff va gurve qhgvrf abg gb unir ntragf vafvqr HAVG. Jura Gur Qbpgbe gheaf hc, rira jvgu n gbgnyyl qvssrerag snpr...

Gura ntnva, jr xabj gung va fcevat 2006 'Gur Qbpgbe' vf ertneqrq fhssvpvragyl uvtuyl ol gur Oevgvfu frperg rfgnoyvfuzrag gung nf fbba nf gurve rnirfqebccvat urneq jbeq bs uvf cerfrapr nynez oryyf jrag bss naq gur beqre jrag bhg gb svaq uvz naq trg uvz gb pbzr naq uryc bhg jvgu gur Fyvgurra fvghngvba; jr nyfb xabj gung gur Guveq Qbpgbe arire rapbhagrerq Gbepujbbq, naq vaqrrq vg ybbxf yvxr gur svefg gvzr gur Qbpgbe rire urneq bs Gbepujbbq jnf jura gurl fubg qbja gur Flpbenk fuvc. Vg znl or gung gurl'ir orra jngpuvat uvz rirel gvzr ur ghearq hc, ohg unir arire unq gb vagreirar. Lrg.

V pregnvayl qba'g guvax gur bireync orgjrra Gbepujbbq naq HAVG vf n cybg ceboyrz. Vg'f n cybg cbvag bs terng vagrerfg. HAVG vf frperg, ohg abg _gung_ frperg; gurer unir orra thlf bcrayl jrnevat HAVG vafvtavn tbvat nebhaq gur cynpr va gur zvqqyr bs Ybaqba. Gbepujbbq BGBU frrzf gb or qrrc oynpx. Creuncf zber vzcbegnagyl, HAVG vf n HA betnavfngvba ercbegvat gb UD va Trarin. Gbepujbbq BGBU vf fbyryl Oevgvfu. Gur zragny vzntr V'z trggvat vf HAVG = oyhr uryzrgf, Gbepujbbq = FNF. HAVG arire unq n Qrngu Fgne zrtnynfre gb cynl jvgu. Gbepujbbq ner onq zbgureshpxref. Naq gurl'er erpehvgvat Pncgnva Wnpx.

edit: and while we're on the subject, when the hell does Torchwood start anyway?

subsequent edit: Naq lrnu, gur Qbpgbe jvyy gbgnyyl vtaber gur rkvyr beqre. Pbzcyrgryl naq hggreyl naq jvgubhg n frpbaq gubhtug. Tbvat gb cynprf jurer fbzrbar qbrfa'g jnag uvz gb or? Ur qbrf gung rirel jrrx!

Imp · « **Reply #5 on:** April 22, 2006, 02:44:34 PM »

According to this site Torchwood starts on BBC Three late this year. Probably part of the new autumn programmes.

Nu, V zvffrq jung Ivpxl fnvq jura fur jnf xavtugvat gurz orpnhfr zl oblf qrpvqrq gb unir n chapuhc ba gur fbsn.

V nterr gung Gbepujbbq frrzf gb or 'qnex', znlor gurl jngpurq Gur Qbpgbe naq qrpvqrq gung gurve Eblny sbhaqre unq ure urnq va ure nff? V qvq rawbl Ebfr'f nggrzcgf gb trg Ivpxl'f pngpucuenfr bhg bs ure gubhtu.

V'z ernyyl ybbxvat sbejneq gb Gbepujbbq, V pna nyernql frr zlfrys fvggvat naq qebbyvat bire Pncgnva Wnpx.

sinic · « **Reply #6 on:** April 23, 2006, 02:03:19 PM »

Zl gurbel vf gung fbzr gvzr orgjrra jura Gbepujbbq vf sbhaqrq naq gur "cerfrag" Gur Qbpgbe pebffrf cngurf jvgu gurz, gurl tb nsgre uvz, uvynevgl rafhrf. Nygreangviryl Pncg. Wnpx pbhyq pbzr vagb gur zvk naq frg gurz fgenvtug nobhg gurve zbfg jnagrq zrqvpny cenpgvgvbare.

Tbbq rcvfbqr, gubhtu. V qba'g guvax vg jnf dhvgr nf fpnel nf rirelbar jnf znxvat bhg, ohg vg jnf fgvyy tbbq. Xhat-sh zbaxf jrer n ovg tvzzvpxl, ohg fgvyy arng.

V unq gur fnzr gubhtugf nobhg Ebfr ER: Onq Jbys. V gubhtug gur yhcvar nyvra zvtug or fbzr fbeg bs nagv-GNEQVF be qnex GNEQVF be fbzrguvat. Ovg bs n ohzzre vg jnfa'g oebhtug bhg zber... gura ntnva vs gur Qbpgbe'f evtug nobhg vg gnxvat ntrf orsber gur jbys pryyf pna pbzr onpx gb qbzvanapr znlor gurl'yy geniry gb, fnl, 2056 naq zrrg n ovttre jbys nyvra zbanepu jub'f hfvat cebcre grpuabybtl gb qrirybc gurve bja GNEQVF sbe qnexre checbfrf. Znlor gurl'yy rira oevat onpx gur Znfgre jvgu vg.

Gura ntnva V vzntvar vg'f nyy cerggl hayvxryl. Jbhyq or pbby, gubhtu.

Pixie · « **Reply #7 on:** April 23, 2006, 02:07:23 PM »

I like the future ones better than the historical ones, mainly because the historical ones try way too hard to get authentic sounding "Ye Olde Dialogue". ^_^

That said, I like the modern day ones best of all, so I'm looking forward to next week. Mickey and Jackie are a delight.

phobos · « **Reply #8 on:** April 24, 2006, 12:19:52 AM »

I wouldn't introduce him this year, but maybe next time around. You don't want to overdo it. We've got people watching now who don't remember the old days at all - indeed, they'd be the primary audience of under-twelves.

Last year they were introduced to the Doctor, the TARDIS, the Daleks and regeneration. Quite a bit to take in. This year, they're getting the return of former companions, the Cybermen and, so we're told, off-Earth journeys (New Earth doesn't really count, though...) A bit at a time. You don't want to throw every single villain at them all at once - you need to leave room for new frights :-)

What's next? I think maybe the Christmas special should be 'The Three Doctors'. Those crossovers were always good fun, even though they were almost invariably very silly. THIS crossover, however, would have to be about the Time War. The Ninth said it couldn't or shouldn't be done, but the Tenth likes impossible. Go back and try to save Gallifrey. He'll fail, of course, but in the process we get to give Paul McGann an airing (and it doesn't matter if he looks older, because we don't know how long it's been for him) and half way through regenerate him... Shameless fanwank, and perhaps the Time War is best left vague, but damn, would it be fun.

phobos · « **Reply #9 on:** April 25, 2006, 06:18:27 AM »

Something I didn't notice before, which has been drawn to my attention:

The name the Doctor gives to Victoria?

"Dr Jamie McCrimmon"

Now THERE'S a long memory for you. Assuming the name of a Scotsman he used to go around with eight lifetimes ago...

phobos · « **Reply #10 on:** April 29, 2006, 03:58:31 PM »

Hey, it's that time of the week again!

'School Reunion': very good episode dripping in nostalgia and showing us how terribly far from perfect the Doctor can be. As has been heavily trailed, it brings Sarah Jane Smith back into the show; she was last seen in Tom Baker's time, having been dropped off along with K-9 in what was supposed to be Hillview Road, South Croydon, but which probably wasn't thanks to the usual inaccuracy of the TARDIS - and she provides an opportunity to return to the idea we saw raised in The Parting of the Ways - what do you DO if you're an ex-companion? How can you go back to an ordinary life after serving as TARDIS crew?

'Don't forget me.' - Sarah Jane Smith, The Hand of Fear, 1976

Spoiler time.

Gur Qbpgbe naq Ebfr, npgvat ba n gvc-bss sebz Zvpxrl, unir vasvygengrq n pbagrzcbenel Ratyvfu uvtu fpubby. Gurer'f orra n fcngr bs HSB fvtugvatf, juvpu Zvpxrl erfrnepurq (nccneragyl hfvat gur npprff ur fgvyy unf gb HAVG flfgrzf - qba'g gurl punatr gurve cnffjbeqf ng nyy?) ohg sbhaq pynffvsvrq ng n yriry orlbaq jung ur pbhyq trg ng, pbqrjbeq, lbh thrffrq vg, GBEPUJBBQ. Fubegyl nsgrejneqf n ohapu bs arj grnpuref fgnegrq jbex ng guvf fpubby, vagebqhprq n arj pheevphyhz naq fgnegrq trggvat nfgbavfuvat erfhygf. Snve rabhtu.

Gurl'er chggvat fbzrguvat fgenatr va gur sbbq, fbzr bs gur xvqf xabj jnl gbb zhpu culfvpf, naq gurer'f n cbfgre ba bar bs gur jnyyf fnlvat RNG ZBER PUVCF. Uru.

Fnenu Wnar vf n ercbegre vairfgvtngvat gur fnzr zlfgrel gung'f nggenpgrq gur Qbpgbe. Ur erpbtavfrf ure vzzrqvngryl, ohg fvk ertrarengvbaf ba, fur qbrfa'g erpbtavfr uvz... ubjrire, fur pnhtug ba bapr fur sbhaq n cbyvpr obk va gur fpubby onfrzrag. Ybiryl fprar.

Nagubal Fgrjneg Urnq jnf qnza tbbq nf gur rivy urnqznfgre. Bs pbhefr ur'f gnxra n ybg bs vg sebz Gur Qrzba Urnqznfgre - jub unq n fvzvyne yvar va pbagebyyvat puvyqera'f zvaqf sbe uvf bja raqf - ohg ur cynlf vg jryy. Uvf pbairefngvbaf jvgu gur Qbpgbe ner greevsvp.

Snohybhf vagrenpgvba orgjrra Ebfr naq Fnenu Wnar, gbb. Gurve tnzr bs Zbafgre Gbc Gehzcf vf bar sbe gur ntrf. Gur Qbpgbe qvqa'g frrz orfg cyrnfrq ng orvat ynhturq ng ol obgu bs gurz, rvgure :-) Abgvpr nyfb ubj ur qhpxf Ebfr'f dhrfgvba nobhg ubj znal pbzcnavbaf gurer'ir orra bire gur lrnef... qbrf Ebfr unir nal vqrn ng nyy nobhg jub gur Qbpgbe vf? Nobhg whfg ubj znal yvirf ur'f unq, ubj ybat ur'f orra jnaqrevat? Avar uhaqerq lrnef byq, ur fnvq ur jnf, ohg vf fur bayl abj ortvaavat gb tenfc jung gung zrnaf?

Gur Qbpgbe gnxrf gur Uvtuynaqre rkphfr sbe gur jnl ur tbrf guebhtu fb znal pbzcnavbaf: ur pna'g nyybj uvzfrys gb tebj gbb nggnpurq, orpnhfr uhznaf ntr naq qvr naq ur qbrfa'g. Obyybpxf, zngr, lbh ntr. Vg gbbx praghevrf, ohg gur Svefg Qbpgbe frrzrq gb znantr gb qvr bs byq ntr. Fvapr gura lbh'ir tbar guebhtu rvtug vapneangvbaf ohg ner bayl pynvzvat gb or nebhaq gjb uhaqerq lrnef byqre; gur nirentr Qbpgbe unf yvirq engure yrff ybat guna gur nirentr uhzna. V jbaqre vs gur erny ernfba vf gung gur Qbpgbe trgf oberq dhvpxyl? Qbrf ur penir inevrgl - urapr nyy gur raqyrff jnaqrevat sebz jbeyq gb jbeyq naq sebz gvzr gb gvzr? Pna ur fvzcyl abg fgnaq gur fnzr crefba'f pbzcnal sbe zber guna n srj lrnef?

Gur ivyynvaf ner nsgre hfvat gur puvyqera'f zvaqf va pbawhapgvba jvgu na rkbgvp pbzchgre flfgrz gb fbyir fbzr nogehfr ceboyrz juvpu jvyy tvir gurz Hygvzngr Cbjre. Hygvzngr cbjre, jr zvtug nqq, juvpu gurl bssre gb funer jvgu gur Qbpgbe. Na vagrerfgvat zbir; gur Gvzr Ybeqf unir pbzznaqrq n arne-tbqyvxr cbjre fvapr Enffvyba'f qnl, nf jr fnj sebz jung gur GNEQVF znqr bs Ebfr ynfg lrne. Pregnvayl gur Qbpgbe jbhyq xabj sne orggre guna nalbar ryfr nebhaq ubj gb hfr guvf cbjre. Ur qrpyvarf, ohg ur'f grzcgrq nyy evtug. Fcrpvsvpnyyl - grzcgrq gb gnxr hc naq hfr gur cbjre gb haqb gur Gvzr Jne naq oevat onpx Tnyyvserl. Jvyy ur fgvyy znxr gur nggrzcg ng n yngre qngr? V fcrphyngrq orsber nobhg gung orvat n cbffvoyr frggvat sbe n Guerr Qbpgbef fcrpvny va n pbhcyr bs lrnef' gvzr...

Avpr zbafgref, gbb. Gurve tvzzvpx frrzf gb or nffvzvyngvat culfvpny srngherf nf jryy nf grpuabybtl sebz gur enprf gurl pbagnpg. Gurve yrnqre jnagf gur Qbpgbe nyvir... ohg vs gung'f abg cbffvoyr, oevat uvf oenva! Crefbanyyl V'q or zbfg vagrerfgrq va gur trargvp be pryyhyne onfvf sbe ertrarengvba, ohg gur oenva vf tbbq. Orggre guna gung vqvbg Ina Fgnggra, jub pbhyqa'g trg cnfg gur gjb-urnegf guvat :-)

X-9. Tbbq byq X-9. Fnenu Wnar xrcg gur byq ebobg qbt, vg frrzf. Vg jnf nyjnlf gnpxl naq xvgfpul, naq jbhyqa'g qb nf n erthyne gbqnl, ohg va na rcvfbqr gung eribyirf nebhaq Fnenu Wnar'f srryvatf bs orvat byq naq yrsg oruvaq sbe n lbhatre pbzcnavba, naq Zvpxrl'f vfbyngvba ba gur fvqryvarf, vg svgf ernyyl jryy: guvf ehfgl byq ebobg sebz ybat ntb.

Gubhtu V yvxrq ynfg jrrx'f rcvfbqr n ybg, guvf vf qrsvavgryl gur orfg Gragu Qbpgbe fgbel fb sne. Graanag'f ernyyl frggyvat va gb gur xvaq bs Qbpgbe ur'f tbvat gb or: dhvgr arne va grzcrenzrag gb Gbz Onxre, nf jr fnj va ubj ur vagrenpgrq jvgu Fnenu Wnar, ohg punatrq naq uneqrarq ol fvk fhofrdhrag yvirf naq qrnguf, naq creuncf zbfg vzcbegnagyl ol gur Gvzr Jne naq gur ngebpvgl ur jnf sbeprq gb pbzzvg gb raq vg. 'V hfrq gb unir fb zhpu zrepl...' - ohg abg fb zhpu abj. Gur Gragu ybbxf gur lbhatrfg bs nyy gur Qbpgbef, ohg gung'f fhcresvpvny; gurer'f n ovggrearff fubjvat urer.

Bayl bar erny qbjafvqr: vg frrzrq haarprffnel sbe gur ivyynvaf gb rng crbcyr. Jnf gung bayl chg va gb znxr vg pyrne gung gurl _jrer_ ivyynvaf? Orggre V guvax gb unir gurz pbafcvevat gb npuvrir hygvzngr cbjre, ohg abg npghnyyl _uhegvat_ nalbar va gur cebprff. Pb-bcgvat gurve oenvaf vagb n pbzchgre cebtenz, fher, ohg qbvat ab npghny qnzntr. Vg jbhyq unir fgeratgurarq gurve nzovthvgl; jr zvtug rira unir gubhtug gung gur Qbpgbe zvtug or orfg bss urycvat gurz!

Pbapyhfvba? Greevsvp. Orfg rcvfbqr fvapr, bu... fvapr Gur Qbpgbe Qnaprf. Ybirq vg.

Imp · « **Reply #11 on:** April 29, 2006, 04:57:16 PM »

V nterr jvgu zbfg bs jung lbh fnvq, ohg V guvax guvf rcvfbqr jnf gur orfg one abar! V unira'g dhvgr znqr hc zl zvaq jul V srry guvf, znlor vg'f orpnhfr V sryg gurer jnf n orggre onynapr orgjrra pbzrql naq qenzn, znlor vg'f orpnhfr gur Qbpgbe unq gb npghnyyl snpr hc gb gur snpg gung ur yrnirf cnva va uvf jnxr. Gura ntnva vg znl or gung V svaq Qnivq Graanag n qnza fvtug frkvre guna Puevf Rppyrfgba (yhfg fcrnxvat!).

V nofbyhgryl ybirq gur vagrenpgvba orgjrra Ebfr naq Fnenu Wnar! Gurer'f abguvat yvxr wrnybhfl orgjrra jbzra gb trg terng qvnybthr. V jnf nyfb vzcerffrq jvgu Nagubal Fgrjneg Urnq'f cresbeznapr, jub'q unir gubhtug Tvyrf pbhyq qb fyvzl/perrcl/guerngravat fb jryy? V jnf n yvggyr qvfnccbvagrq gb svaq gung X-9 nccneragyl jba'g or va nal zber rcvfbqrf, V nyjnlf unq n fbsg fcbg sbe gur 'gva qbt', ohg V pna nyjnlf ubcr.

V guvax vg'yy or vagrerfgvat gb frr ubj Zvpxrl pbcrf jvgu orvat na nffvfgnag, rfcrpvnyyl fvapr Ebfr pyrneyl qbrfa'g jnag uvz nybat.

Adam the Alien · « **Reply #12 on:** April 29, 2006, 06:06:05 PM »

Buh? It's going again? Dammit, it figures it started up again the month I stop checking for new episodes. I've been very, very antsy for new Who since December.

*runs off to catch up with the episodes*

(Oh, and a side-note to my fellow Americans: watching last year's season of Doctor Who on the Sci-Fi Channel is not advisable...even though I've seen them all, I tuned in the first night of the American airing...only to find that they're pulling a Fox and airing the episodes out of order, it seems.)

phobos · « **Reply #13 on:** April 30, 2006, 03:56:46 AM »

X-9 whfg jbhyqa'g jbex gbqnl. Gung jnf gur jubyr cbvag... X-9'f n eryvp bs gur cnfg, juvpu gur Qbpgbe unf nonaqbarq yvxr ur qbrf rirelobql fbbare be yngre.

Nabgure guvat V abgvprq ohg sbetbg gb zragvba lrfgreqnl: Zvpxrl'f jrnevat n G-fuveg jvgu n cvpgher bs gur bevtvany ARF pbagebyyre naq gur fybtna 'Erzrzore lbhe ebbgf'. Irel avpr gbhpu.

Nf sbe ubj Zvpxrl jvyy ghea bhg nf n pbzcnavba: V'z orggvat qrnq, naq qrnq cerggl dhvpxyl. Gurer ner Plorezra qhr gb ghea hc va n pbhcyr bs rcvfbqrf' gvzr.

Bar zber guvat: gurer'f n ybg bs gnyx yngryl nobhg Tbq. Ebfr'f oevrs ncbgurbfvf ng gur raq bs ynfg lrne, gur yrtraq nobhg gur Snpr bs Obr gryyvat uvf frpergf gb gur Jnaqrevat Tbq, gur cybg whfg abj nobhg gelvat gb nfpraq gb tbqubbq ol qvfpbirevat gur havirefr'f vazbfg frperg - naq gur hcpbzvat gjb-cnegre 'Gur Vzcbffvoyr Cynarg' naq 'Gur Fngna Cvg', juvpu V tngure jvyy or nyy qvnobyvp naq fcbbxl... V jbaqre vs guvf vf yrnqvat gb fbzrguvat?

There are some new Who-related sites. There's a website for a historic Scottish stately home, for instance, in whose tea room they serve Millingdale ice cream. Someone's been emailing Mickey to say 'they're coming'... Also, Deffry Vale High School's motto is 'Making the most out of your children' ;-)

Adam the Alien · « **Reply #14 on:** April 30, 2006, 05:54:00 AM »

Well, I just watched "New Earth" and "Tooth and Claw". Before I go about discussing them, does someone want to fill in those of us not-so-bright folks (i.e. me) on this spoiler code everyone else seems to know?

phobos · « **Reply #15 on:** April 30, 2006, 06:08:54 AM »

It's ROT13. A Caesar cipher, with each letter shifted 13 places along the alphabet. As a result, applying ROT13 twice gets you back to where you started. So, for instance, The Doctor -> Gur Qbpgbe -> The Doctor. It's been used by geeks online to cover up spoilers and suchlike since... well, since back when they used to discuss new episodes of Doctor Who, as a matter of fact.

(Yes, there WAS an Internet back then. Google sees all!)

edit: Oh, and about School Reunion - I knew it reminded me of something and after a little research I now know what. From The Armageddon Factor:

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Doctor: 'We have the power to do anything we like. Absolute power over every particle in the universe. Everything that has ever existed and ever will exist. As from this moment - are you listening to me Romana?'
Romana: 'Yes of course I'm listening...'
Doctor: 'Because if you're not listening, I can make you listen. Because I can do anything. As from this moment there's no such thing as free will in the entire universe. There's only my will because I possess the Key to Time.'
Romana: 'Doctor, are you all right?'
Doctor: 'Well of course I'm all right... but supposing I wasn't all right?'

Ultimate power over all of time and space... plus ca change, eh?

sinic · « **Reply #16 on:** April 30, 2006, 09:54:22 AM »

There's an aptitude game on the Deffry Vale website. I've only tried it a little (and only managed 3/7 my first time in phase 1), but it looks interesting. I may have to try a bit harder next time and see what comes of it.

Also, from the Deffry Vale community website, what do you think the Parson's homepage has to do with anything? Was that one of the kids' family?

phobos · « **Reply #17 on:** April 30, 2006, 10:24:01 AM »

Mr Parsons was the history teacher. See here. He spoke to the Doctor about the suspicious wave of teacher disappearances.

edit to add: holy FUCK! The retro theme goes further than we'd known.

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MR SMITH joins us as Ms Barrat's replacement until the end of term. He's previously taught Physics in Shoreditch.

Shoreditch, eh? Good old Coal Hill School, I suppose. That one goes right back to 1963. Never heard that he taught there, though. At any rate he went by the name of Foreman back then, not Smith. He went back twice after that, from what I can tell; the first time there were Cybermen all over the place blowing things up, and the next time there were hordes of Daleks. Not really good circumstances in which to hold an impromptu physics class, although I admit I wouldn't put it past him...

I'm still wondering what the hell Millingdale Ice Cream is all about.

One more thing about how damn brilliant yesterday's show was: vs lbh'er n xvq jngpuvat Qbpgbe Jub, lbh'ir cebonoyl tbg fbzr cerggl obevat grnpuref. Jung vs lbh pnzr va bar qnl xabjvat gurer'f n arj fpvrapr grnpure... naq vg'f GUR QBPGBE? V zrna, ubyl penc. Culfvpf yrffbaf jvgu n Gvzr Ybeq? Ubj pbhyq gurer rire or nalguvat pbbyre va gur ragver jbeyq rire? Nznmvat vqrn. Gurer'yy or zvyyvbaf bs crbcyr va fpubby ba Ghrfqnl zbeavat fvggvat va pynff fgnevat ng gur grnpure naq guvaxvat 'qnza, jr pbhyq qb fb zhpu orggre guna uvz...'

Naq ubcrshyyl gurl jba'g or rngvat gur puvcf nal zber, rvgure.

Pixie · « **Reply #18 on:** April 30, 2006, 12:42:03 PM »

Hahaha. Much more effective than Jamie's School Dinners.

I love it! My favourite so far. Mickey is a total joy. ^_^

Dral · « **Reply #19 on:** May 01, 2006, 08:46:03 AM »

*sigh* It's so much nicer to read discussion about this episode over here than my Doctor Who forum.

It's all 'OMG School Reunion completely wipes the BBC books out of canon because of a couple of throwaway lines! I Hate The New Show!'

Here, at least, I can converse with fans who haven't forgotten the simple joy in being a fan of the programme.

On the other hand, I do have difficulty reconciling it with The Five Doctors, wherein Sarah Jane clearly met a doctor after the fourth, which contradicts School Reunion.

*shakes head* I'll stop there before I hurt my credibility as a member of the human race.

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